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There are places I'll remember/All my life, though some have changed
Who| Robbie and Vance
What| Vance has a few things to say to Robbie
Where| Basement of Mount Wundagore in the Habitat Area
When| After Vance comes back from bailing Rich out
Warnings/Notes| Possible mentions of depression, self harm. abuse, child deaths. Will update as necessary
He'd recognized the wall when he caught video of Robbie talking to Brainy. Vance had been intending to give Robbie some space, then go look for him. He HADN'T been expecting Rich to enforce that space by being an idiot, but maybe he should have expected something from that quarter when he hadn't spoken up.
Also, the whole thing with Valeria may have rattled him a bit.
Still, Vance makes his way down to the 'basement' of Mount Wundagore, to a room that doesn't actually exist in the real version. It's not that surprising to Vance that Robbie retreated down here, though some part of him wishes that the room didn't exist at all.
"I thought I'd find you down here."
But, then, Robbie always has been the kind to self-flagellate. And where better to do that than the Stamford memorial?
What| Vance has a few things to say to Robbie
Where| Basement of Mount Wundagore in the Habitat Area
When| After Vance comes back from bailing Rich out
Warnings/Notes| Possible mentions of depression, self harm. abuse, child deaths. Will update as necessary
He'd recognized the wall when he caught video of Robbie talking to Brainy. Vance had been intending to give Robbie some space, then go look for him. He HADN'T been expecting Rich to enforce that space by being an idiot, but maybe he should have expected something from that quarter when he hadn't spoken up.
Also, the whole thing with Valeria may have rattled him a bit.
Still, Vance makes his way down to the 'basement' of Mount Wundagore, to a room that doesn't actually exist in the real version. It's not that surprising to Vance that Robbie retreated down here, though some part of him wishes that the room didn't exist at all.
"I thought I'd find you down here."
But, then, Robbie always has been the kind to self-flagellate. And where better to do that than the Stamford memorial?
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The memorial isn't even a normal part of Mount Wundagore. Robbie snuck it in, because the Legion doesn't know better and out of the quirky teleportation drive that the mountain uses, which lets it be in two places at once. The Stamford memorial is actually a PART of this Mount Wundagore though, taking the place of a catacomb of tunnels that let original inhabitants park street vehicles at ground level. No one ever bothered going down this many floors. All the cool stuff is at the peak.
"I didn't think you hung out in the parking garage." Vance's arrival is a surprise, but his attention is not. Robbie stops staring at the large fountain and the engraved names. He doesn't look at his friend though. Rob just stares down at his hands and says flatly, "Rich thinks I'm nuts."
Right now, that's bothering more than anything from the video. More than seeing Arnold Astrovik hit Vance, more than any of it.
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It's home to them both back in their own world, so it hadn't really felt like an invasion of privacy. Not until he'd gotten to the memorial, at least. He'd taken note of it and left it at that, but it wasn't like he forgot the location.
Rich thinks I'm nuts, gets a blown out breath and a grimace out of Vance. "Rich has his own damage that he's got to work through." Because as much as Vance and Robbie may have joked about it in public, this wasn't normal behavior for Rich. Not even back in his most headstrong days. "And it looks like he's going to be stubborn about it, but that's not unusual. Needing to go to psych and talk things out isn't a sign of insanity."
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Robbie shrugs at the assessment. He can tell by Vance's reaction that this is a frustration no one needs right now. "Insanity's doing the same thing and expecting different results. Update: same results again. Will try again later."
He bites his thumbnail and squirms in place a little, repositioning both legs twice before he says anything else. "I told him he should go see the Doc. I said, you know... I know how it feels when you feel like a puppet to your own decisions. And he said "I'm not crazy." That's it. Just like that."
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Vance steps closer, taking a seat on the wall more than an arms length away and stretches his legs out, looking out over the memorial.
"Because he's not crazy." Vance looks over at him. "Neither are you. Neither am I." Because it's not like he isn't still going to psych as well. "Rich has always been...macho. More so than most guys I've ever worked with. And a lot of macho guys think that having to see anybody for their problems is a weakness. He's a war hero, he soldiered through what happened just fine, he'll continue being fine."
Yes, he paid attention to the conversation with Wash. "Which doesn't mean he's getting much of a choice in the matter. I'll march him down there myself if I have to."
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Is the problem his relative lack of machismo? He used to have more, Robbie thinks, but can't remember when he stopped worrying about being The Man. "I don't know if you can cajole him into it. I asked him to do it as a favor. He's not me, the odds aren't pre-stacked in your favor because he obviously doesn't care about not disappointing a friend. He said something about how he acted before he left - I think he saw that clip of me complaining - but it's weird. He never felt bad about it before."
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He doesn't comment on having his head screwed on straight. It doesn't feel like it most of the time.
"Well, I can try. And I can drag him there if necessary. Or ask Kid Q to order him there." He might not care about disappointing a friend, but he wouldn't tell Kid Q off if she threatened to bench him.
He lets out a breath. "Well, it's worth a shot, at least."
The rest of it makes him pause and consider. "I'm pretty sure that's not true. Him not feeling bad about it, I mean. But there's probably never been a good opening for him to apologize before."
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Robbie considers Vance's various offers and decides for him. "I'll do it. If you tell her to bench him, and he finds out, then Rich isn't talking to either of us. I'm already not talking to him. I don't know if the pity apology or the I'm not crazy like you is worse, but I know I don't want more of either..."
He trails off and looks back over at the main part of the memorial, immediately getting a backwash of guilt for having said something like that, here. Robbie cringes and rubs his forearms roughly. "... I'm having a really hard time with today.
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Vance opens his mouth, then shuts it and nods. "If that's what you want to do, then all right. That's how we'll play it." Especially as Robbie was having such a hard time. Which is...completely understandable, really.
He turns his head upward, looking at the 'sky' overhead. "That stupid program's thrown us both for a loop."
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Everyone saw those afterschool specials. Next week, on a very special Blossom. Robbie wonders how much of it was right there to be called out, but he didn’t notice enough to even spot it in hindsight. “And I still keep being a jerk about it, because I don’t ask you how you’re doing. I just lean you all the time, and I never stop to take my turn as “the strong one.”
He hangs his head, and his hair obscures Vance from his sightlines. “And then this comes on, and I freaking sit there and watch like the rest of them, because it’s a slow motion Trainwreck. I don’t go find you, I don’t go storm the tv station. I just hide because my priorities are so messed up that I’m more worried about whether or not I can get through talking about the show to the team than I am about you .And that’s not – that’s not how it is. You’re more – you’re what’s important. So... I'm listening."
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"Robbie. You can't help any body else without helping yourself. You deserve the chance to help yourself first. I'm not more important than your wellbeing." Because that's what it comes down to, or so Vance is feeling. The fact that Robbie doesn't feel like he deserves to come first, even to himself.
"If you want to know how I'm feeling, though, mostly I'm angry and frustrated. Some of the anger is at what happened to me being brought back up, because that's one thing I'll never live down, but it's also something I wish would be brought up a little less. A lot of the anger is seeing what you went through and wishing I could go back and punch a few more people." There's a list. Moonstone is at the top. He'll work his way down. "I'm frustrated with Rich for going off the deep end like that. Yelling, sure, that's his MO, but the desk is new. I'm also frustrated with the TV studio for invading our privacy like that, but that one's not a new thing. I've been frustrated with THAT since they announced it was a thing they could do."
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“I guess you’re right.” It was much easier to shrug it off, for both their sakes. Not literally, Vance’s arm is fine. “I'm kind of in the same place, if you swap the yous and Is. I thought I’d gotten to a place where I could walk down the street and not wonder when someone was looking at me. But it’s mostly… about you. Rich is – his heart's in… enh.”
Robbie sighs. His heart isn’t in the right place to defend Rich's motivations today. “I don’t even know. You’re mad because of me, I’m mad because of you, and he’s mad for of us. I get it, and part of me wants to have his back so badly. It’s been a long time since he took a cheap shot like that, but… I should have a thicker skin. People say worse things about me all the time. And I did chew him out about how getting himself arrested made it worse for you.”
He feels a little more comfortable, having excused away what Rich said. After all, Robbie's IS crazy, and everyone knows it now.
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"Rich's heart isn't the problem. Rich's brain, on the other hand..." Their friend's impulse control seemed to have gotten better over the years, but perhaps this is just one thing too many in too short a time. "It's not that I'm not mad about me. Or..." He pauses. "I told Garrus that I'd considered volunteering to do one of them at one point. Like Blue Rose did. But I didn't because my past is too caught up with the rest of you guys. There would have been no way to tell it without yours getting caught up in it and I didn't want to do that to you."
Which is something that's been playing in his head for a few months now. How much Robbie has been part of his decisions, even when he's not been consciously doing it.
"Him getting arrested didn't make it that much worse for me. Other than having to go and bail him out, and even that could have been left to somebody else." He shrugs slightly. "Robbie. I'm okay. I'm going to keep being okay. Hell, it's looking like this is just going to end up with most of the fandom feeling bad for the both of us, so it's not even going to be a percentage as bad as it was back home."
Which is...a lot to take in. Yes, Vance had known for a while now that this world was far more accepting of people with innate powers than their own, but that didn't mean he had expected quite as much defense of him in the show. But it had warmed him a lot to see the defense of Robbie.
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"You're assuming he has a brain." His mouth was on autopilot. Robbie's good at that. The autopilot jokes are a little too insulty and definitely cliched, but it's great for filling awkward silences after he just bounced his butt off somebody's head or trying to deal with the hot mess of his life - and his best friend's - being served up for dinner. "... can we agree that neither of us wanted this to happen to the other and would've done whatever it took to accomplish that? Because you won't let me apologize, and I don't want to keep chasing each other around the same conversation."
He's staring at the fountain again, and five, ten seconds tick by before Robbie manages to get the rest out. "I know you're okay. You're always okay, and I don't know how you do it. But... it fucking kills me when I have to see how much harder I've made it for you to be okay the last few years. You make a normal life okay because then it's for you and not me being selfish. Vance wants to work at the new Avengers school. Vance wants to go on a road trip. Vance is down for reforming the team." Robbie's eyes are slick and shiny, and he wipes them on his sleeve. "Look where we are, man. You're my excuse for everything that's not here. So I need your 'okay' to be as easy as possible, because one day you're going to be over it and retire to Nebraska."
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Vance turns his attention back to the fountain, considering. "I can see where you can see it like that, honestly, but...I never felt that way. About any of it. Sure, teaching at the school was about helping to give you some structure, but the road trip was wanting to spend time with you. And the team was..." He pauses, frowning. "I didn't realize how much I needed it, actually. I'd been trying to deny it for so long and I think part of it was just that I didn't feel I could be responsible for others again. It's hard enough being responsible for myself sometimes."
They were both still young adults. It's not that uncommon.
Another moment, and Vance shook his head. "And, honestly. I just really wanted to take that time to just be with you. Get to know my friend again."
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Confirmation that two of the three were definitely about him - it doesn't feel great, but it's not like he didn't know. Somewhere around the Cadillac Ranch, he just had an epiphany. "You're a lot better at than you think. I bet you even know how to balance a checkbook."
Robbie nudges Vance in the ribs, half to drive the previous point home and half as setup for the next. Chiding him comes so much easier than struggling for a heartfelt, appreciative response to being told he's still worth that. "If I told you you sound like a Hallmark card, would I be in as much trouble as the wallpaper comment?"
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In truth, Vance would probably return to New York. "On the other hand, we have a whole mountain that can go anywhere we want, so there's always that."
It wasn't just about Robbie, but getting Robbie to see that was a chore and a half. And possibly Vance wasn't speaking clearly enough. "I have online banking, same as everybody. I kinda use that instead of balancing anything." It's not like he didn't keep track of what he spent enough to be able to see anything that was wrong.
The nudge and the rest of it makes Vance laugh, just a good, hard laugh. Maybe a laugh he didn't indulge in often enough. "I did mention being trite earlier," he points out, shaking his head. "It's probably better than sounding like a fortune cookie. I'll leave that to Iron Fist."
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The eyeroll is massive, because Vance does not get to miss that one in a blink. “Ugh, seriously, retire already and stop stepping on my lines. I know you have online banking. Online banking isn’t funny.”
He’s fueled by Vance's laugh, really. It sounds good and feels better. This is what he can do for Vance: he can still make him laugh. “I don’t know. Iron Fist could keep me in new phones and better HQ décor. I could do green tea and fortune cookies for satin sheets.”
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Which, honestly, is what Robbie was getting at, he thought. That he's the practical one with his feet on the ground. (Which is amusing, as much as he flies.)
The laughter peters off, but Vance is still looking terribly amused. "We just haven't had a chance to redecorate the planning room. It'll get done! As for satin sheets...well, I mean. If that's what you want, we can probably manage."
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Robbie shrugs his shoulders under Vance’s arm. He’s not invested in the prediction, but. “Didn’t you just get done explaining how you’re not doing things because I want to do them? It shouldn’t make a difference if I’m still kicking around the tights biz.”
He tries to make it neutral, despite vastly preferring Speedball and Justice to always be a team. Robbie retreats back to making fun of their furniture, where there’s no landmines. “You’re under no obligation to help me rescue more couches from the curb, and I can buy my own sheets without your weirdness ruining the idea."
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He frowns, rubbing his fingers in a circle against Robbie's sleeve. "I still hear him sometimes. That voice at the back of my head, telling me that I need to be normal." There's no need to elaborate on who 'him' is, after all. Or was, really. "Even when I think I keep rejecting everything that he ever said, there's that little bit that keeps looking at everybody else and thinking that's what I SHOULD be trying to do." He sighs, looking upward. "That's one of the things that I've been working on with Dr. Ry'kerr. Trying to separate the things that I really want from what I was always told I should want. Maybe that means going back to school again one day. Maybe it means I don't." Vance shrugs. "Right now, it means living in a teleporting mountain with a bunch of people who tend to drive me crazy and..."
This is it. The moment of truth. "And my oldest friend, the one I would gladly face the end of the world fighting beside."
Maybe not quite.
"I may not be under any obligation, Robbie, but I want to be there. With you."
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And then Vance saying that he's still trying to be normal for his dad. How does he begin to respond to that?
"I'm going to be a hero forever," Robbie says quietly. "It's the only thing I ever wanted for me. I know the reasons changed, but... it's who I am. Sometimes, I think about going back to school, but then I hear him asking me how every last thing is going to help me go to law school. No law school'd accept me now."
He doesn't want to be a lawyer, but lawyer, artist, and superhero were the only options Robbie knew. "You need to do what you want, too. He doesn't get to have that sort of power over you. He never deserved a kid as awesome as you."
Letting out a little huff at the idea, Robbie nods once and gives Vance a half smile. "Not gonna lie, I'm glad what you want is living in a teleporting mountain with a bunch of people who drive you crazy, because we need you. You are normal, Vance. Not Justice, but you, Vance Astrovik, are in possession of the normalest personality I know. You're just. Solid. And that's good. That's why I want you there."
"You can cross facing the end of the world next to me off your bucket list, though. We've done it like three times already. I'm over it."
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It's not like Robbie doesn't sometimes drive him crazy, after all. "Right now, being a hero is right for us both. That might change some day, and if it does, we'll cross the bridge when we get there." A pause. "But we're not giving up the teleporting mountain. That's just too good not to keep."
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He's legitimately stunned if that's true. Should Robbie try harder? As much as he likes attention (still, unfortunately), he doesn't like it at the expense of Vance pulling his hair out. It doesn't seem like they're anywhere near that level at the moment, though. "I'm not giving up the teleporting mountain. You'll have to fight me for it."
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It's good-natured grousing, though, with a spark of happiness that Vance hasn't had in a while. Since before Stamford, obviously. But it's good to talk about his team like this.
Vance glances over at him for a moment, then shrugs. "Then I guess you're stuck with me."
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He keeps his eyes and focus on Vance. Boxing off the pleasant conversation from the solemn location is doable, but it’s definitely easier to compartmentalize when he doesn’t let the memorial pull focus. “I think we’re stuck with each other – and you haven’t gotten your boring all over me yet, so maybe Selah's got a chance.”
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Even though he tries to keep it out, there's a little wistfulness in Vance's voice. Which is better than the bitterness that could have been there. After all, he and Angelica had started dating young and had decided to get married FAR too young. Something that he hadn't entirely realized until it was too late to salvage things. It's only recently that he's been able to get past the worst of the bad feelings.
Vance blinks and gives Robbie an amused smile. "I'm pretty sure it's Selah that's going to be the bad influence. And let's be honest. I've never really tried to get my boring all over you, either."
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Which is... basically what Vance is suggesting, and it's not like Robbie doesn't know that every single relationship his friends have tried have all ended - in some cases, badly. He just wants to nip this negativity in the bud before Vance starts telling the wrong people that their feelings will fart out. "Because you know I'm -"
Because you know I'm awesome, Robbie had almost said, but he catches himself in time to stop the words and squash about half the shame that bubbles up from starting in on that routine here. "Never going to be boring. Why is it that only the boring ones get to be the good influences?"
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"Are you okay? I mean, aside from the video or maybe just aside from the anger and frustration." Robbie feels a bit like an idiot for the question. They've already established that both of them are currently Not Okay. "It's just... I've told you like three times that you're stuck with me. You're still stuck with me, by the way."
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After another few moments, he sighs and shakes his head. "How did Angel always make this seem so easy?"
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His view shifts over to the memorial again. He doesn't want to watch Vance make that face, knowing that it's because of Robbie and doesn't involve a particularly bad joke. He suspects it's something to do with the holo-vid. There are probably memes that Vance wants to warn him about, or worse.
"Angelica made everything seem easy. Most of us, you could say that our head was in the right place, or our heart was. But Angel - she had her head and her heart in the right place, just about all the time - not that you're a lackadaisical lunkhead, but I get why you'd think she's better at dropping bombs on people. Say what you've got to say. I'll survive."
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Still. Maybe it's like a bandaid and it's better just to rip it off all at one time.
"I think I'm in love with you."
...That might not have been the best way to phrase it.
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He can’t make sense of it. Vance likes girls, and the revelation that his interests were broader than that would make Robbie blink. There’s nothing else to unpack there. After blinking, his reaction is just 'okay, great.’ It’s not a big deal.
The real problem is that that revelation is only implied. The anvil that clanged off Robbie’s head is that Vance …well, that Robbie is involved in it at all. That’s not so okay. He can’t help wondering what he did wrong. He must have overdone being normal, if it seems like a relationship with anyone is ever going to be a possibility.
Guiltily, he slides away from Vance and out of reach. Robbie knows it’s a terrible move to make, and he doesn’t know how to nicely explain that he doesn’t mind the contact but it’s probably better for Vance if it doesn’t continue.
Shit, how did he let this happen? He’s bad at letting people down easy. The only time he’s really even tried is when he backed away from Aracely's crush, and it didn’t even work.
Robbie gets to his feet and looks anywhere but Vance. Unfortunately, everything that’s left is the memorial to Robbie’s worst mistake. How can this conversation be happening, here? With the angel fountain and the names of hundreds of people who'll never get the chance to say I love you again. It’s so out-of-place that it’s vulgar.
“You can’t say things like that. Not here,” he adds quickly, trying desperately to soften the impact. After the show and telling Vance how he wishes he had done more to spare him pain, hurting his friend now would be cruel. “It’s – not right. They can’t –“
He abandons trying to explain, between having choked up on the words and feeling like he’s digging the hole deeper, and stands fidgeting while he waits for some sort of direction. Robbie doesn’t know what’s worse, leaving or staying, but he can always change his mind if he stays.
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Vance stands, taking a few steps toward Robbie but not touching him. Not unless Robbie shows that he wants to be touched. "More than that, Robbie, it is something you should hear. The fact that you are loved, no matter what else has happened." Not that he expects Robbie to believe it, especially not now. "Look, I...it doesn't have to mean anything. I just thought it was something you deserved to know."
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At least, Robbie thinks it's weird. This would be the first time he's been involved with one. When he was a kid, he'd pictured, oh, a 100% completely different scenario, usually involving Heather Locklear.
He's pretty sure it isn't supposed make him so uptight that the emotional awkwardness spills over into physical discomfort, and Robbie is certain that part of him shouldn't be considering going along with it, because that would at least make one person happy.
That would be a shitty thing to do to a friend. "I know you better than that. If it meant you might chicken out, then it meant..."
It's only then that Robbie finally takes a step back, shoving a hand through his hair. After a moment, he mumbles, "I am so not prepared for this conversation. Nobody told me life was going off book today."
He's rehearsed a lot of responses in his life, both quips and explanations, but Robbie hasn't prepped for anything like this.
"I should... go," he says quietly, with an accompanying flinch at how lame he sounds, but it's said now. There's a certain amount of follow-through required, and Robbie takes a few more steps away. He gives Vance one last apologetic look, and turns to go.
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He pauses, taking a moment before letting out a breath. "I'll see you later."
Maybe. It's not like Vance is going to track him down. He's already made this awkward enough.
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Part of him wants to joke that leading then to shit is still leading somewhere, but Robbie doesn't find it as funny as he thinks he should. "I'll catch you later."
Like when he can look Vance in the face again. When Robbie's officially out of the memorial, he takes off, intending to lose himself in Central Park for a few hours.